FLAT TOWING QUESTION / OBSERVATION...

BDRAG · Nov 26, 2018

Ok. So I get the warn hubs installed and test tow per the latest and greatest Mahindra recommendations. Hubs unlocked, Transfer case in Neutral, Transmission in 1st gear. I crawl under and can turn front drive shaft which means hubs are working. Cool! I tow, Front drive shaft still turns as well as rear drive shaft? Rear diff and front diff get warm. Transfer case not as warm. Drive all around in 2 high with hubs unlocked, front diff stone cold. WTF??? LOL......

So if trans is in neutral front diff doesn't turn with rear??? So why do I need the hubs if everything turns anyway???

BDRAG

KLaHa · Nov 28, 2018

BD, I am with you. Why do we need the hubs if tranny and case are in neutral?

BDRAG · Nov 28, 2018

I get the hubs if it saves wear and tear. It does in 2 wheel drive. The roxor turns a tad bit sharper as well, but they won't save the ring, pinion, or axle bearing? But hay, it keeps us in warranty?

BDRAG

Bister · Nov 28, 2018

KLaHa said:
BD, I am with you. Why do we need the hubs if tranny and case are in neutral?

Transmission should be in first gear to tie it to the engine so it doesn't turn at all, not neutral.

KLaHa · Nov 29, 2018

Ok thanks appreciate it.

BDRAG · Nov 29, 2018

Bister said:
Transmission should be in first gear to tie it to the engine so it doesn't turn at all, not neutral.

Yes, correct, first gear. That's what I wrote

BDRAG

KLaHa · Nov 29, 2018

All right getting this nailed down ... and appreciate the comments btw, so which Warn Hub # do I order for the Roxor?

BDRAG · Nov 29, 2018

I got it dyslexic the last time. LOL. 29062. ( 71 BACK JEEP CJ )

BDRAG

BDRAG · Nov 29, 2018

KLaHa said:
All right getting this nailed down ... and appreciate the comments btw, so which Warn Hub # do I order for the Roxor?

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I got summit to price match plus shipping. I paid $190 and got them 13 hours later ups. lol.

BDRAG

KLaHa · Nov 29, 2018

Thanks Man!

Roxor886 · Jun 6, 2019

BDRAG said:
Ok. So I get the warn hubs installed and test tow per the latest and greatest Mahindra recommendations. Hubs unlocked, Transfer case in Neutral, Transmission in 1st gear. I crawl under and can turn front drive shaft which means hubs are working. Cool! I tow, Front drive shaft still turns as well as rear drive shaft? Rear diff and front diff get warm. Transfer case not as warm. Drive all around in 2 high with hubs unlocked, front diff stone cold. WTF??? LOL......

So if trans is in neutral front diff doesn't turn with rear??? So why do I need the hubs if everything turns anyway???

BDRAG

Did you ever figure anything out? I too am experiencing the same thing. First gear transmission, neutral transfer case both drive shafts turn?

Pdphilson · Jun 6, 2019

BDRAG said:
Ok. So I get the warn hubs installed and test tow per the latest and greatest Mahindra recommendations. Hubs unlocked, Transfer case in Neutral, Transmission in 1st gear. I crawl under and can turn front drive shaft which means hubs are working. Cool! I tow, Front drive shaft still turns as well as rear drive shaft? Rear diff and front diff get warm. Transfer case not as warm. Drive all around in 2 high with hubs unlocked, front diff stone cold. WTF??? LOL......

So if trans is in neutral front diff doesn't turn with rear??? So why do I need the hubs if everything turns anyway???

BDRAG

These Roxors are old school
Put the trans and transfer case in neutral

People are use to later model dodge etc. That need a different configuration on towing

Bister · Jun 6, 2019

Pdphilson said:
These Roxors are old school
Put the trans and transfer case in neutral

People are use to later model dodge etc. That need a different configuration on towing

Transmission goes in FIRST gear, not neutral, as mentioned a couple times above. Transfer case stays in NEUTRAL.

Roxor886 · Jun 6, 2019

Bister said:
Transmission goes in FIRST gear, not neutral, as mentioned a couple times above. Transfer case stays in NEUTRAL.

If I do this

Bister said:
Transmission goes in FIRST gear, not neutral, as mentioned a couple times above. Transfer case stays in NEUTRAL.

With the transmission in first gear, and the transfer case in neutral the front drive shaft still spins with the hubs unlocked? I have it up on 4 jack stands to verify all of this. Help me understand please.....

Roxor886 · Jun 6, 2019

the only way I can stop the front drive shaft from spinning is to have transmission in nuetral and transfer case in 2 wheel drive.

Bister · Jun 7, 2019

The recommendation in the manual is first gear for the transmission, I believe this is to prevent the transmission from spinning since it is locked to the engine, and neutral for the transfer case. If I was towing, I would follow this. I'm not quiet sure what you are explaining or doing. I will leave it up to folks more knowledgeable than me on this subject to reply to you.

BDRAG · Jun 7, 2019

Roxor886 said:
If I do this

With the transmission in first gear, and the transfer case in neutral the front drive shaft still spins with the hubs unlocked? I have it up on 4 jack stands to verify all of this. Help me understand please.....

Well, I have seen and read the Roxor Factory Flat Towing update my dealer got. It does state to put Transfer Case in Neutral, Transmission in 1st Gear. So I will do this. It seems crazy but I am new to this as well. One person told me, I can't remember who, The transmission in first is to keep transmission from spinning from transfer case gears that may still spin even in neutral. If your spinning the tail shaft to the transmission it may not be receiving any trans fluid flung on it? I'll do what the factory recommends. LOL.
BDRAG

Roxor886 · Jun 7, 2019

BDRAG said:
Well, I have seen and read the Roxor Factory Flat Towing update my dealer got. It does state to put Transfer Case in Neutral, Transmission in 1st Gear. So I will do this. It seems crazy but I am new to this as well. One person told me, I can't remember who, The transmission in first is to keep transmission from spinning from transfer case gears that may still spin even in neutral. If your spinning the tail shaft to the transmission it may not be receiving any trans fluid flung on it? I'll do what the factory recommends. LOL.
BDRAG

Thank you both! Still clear as mud but I guess factory wants it this way for a reason. For myself personally I will disconnect the rear shaft on longer trips to be safe.

BDRAG · Jun 7, 2019

Roxor886 said:
Thank you both! Still clear as mud but I guess factory wants it this way for a reason. For myself personally I will disconnect the rear shaft on longer trips to be safe.

I only tow short distances at this point. Less than 100 miles. I drag it to a few local car events and such. If I drag it to the property I trailer it.

If I was to flat tow for any distance I would also do as you stated, remove shaft.

BDRAG

Roxor94 · Jul 15, 2019

So I flat towed my Roxor yesterday to see how it pulled. No issues except the rear axle seemed very hot. I went about 6 miles with half of that at 55 mph. Transfer in neutral and transmission in first gear like the manual states. I do have warn hubs on the front.

Is this normal for the rear axle to be so hot?

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